Here's the management summary:
I am planning on a 500 gal propane tank that we fill once a season to power a gas cook top and the hotwater heater. Although, I still may end-up using electricity for the water heater. That would let me get a smaller propane tank, since it would only be supplying the cook-top. Which then leads me to think, why not forgo the propane (and the associated cost) altogether, and go 100% electric? Inductive cook top and on-demand, electric water heater. My thoughts are muddled. My wife and I are spoiled with our gas cook top at home. Oooh. Aaah.
The other vendors I'm still considering include Nuheat, Warmlyours, Floorheat, Warmup, Heatizon, Speedheat, Suntouch, Carbonicheat.
Here's my analysis of Step (so far).
Since we're located about 4,000 in the mountains, I've decided not to worry too much about air conditioning. I am making sure we have screens on the windows and can get a cross breeze. Plus, we'll be well insulated.
Also, because I expect the cabin to be pretty "tight" (well-insulated), I'm also planning to have fans in the bathrooms on each level that vent to the exterior so I can move the air. Don't want a sick house.
- Radiant heating in the floor on all three levels
- On-demand water heater
- Fireplace on the main level (more for ambiance and entertainment, but it will provide some heat).
Gas Situation
There's no natural or propane gas in the street, so if I wanted to use gas I have to install a propane tank. BUT the cabin is inaccessible to drive-up traffic from November through June. And I *REALLY* don't like the idea of running out of propane for critical systems like heat (to keep pipes from freezing!)I am planning on a 500 gal propane tank that we fill once a season to power a gas cook top and the hotwater heater. Although, I still may end-up using electricity for the water heater. That would let me get a smaller propane tank, since it would only be supplying the cook-top. Which then leads me to think, why not forgo the propane (and the associated cost) altogether, and go 100% electric? Inductive cook top and on-demand, electric water heater. My thoughts are muddled. My wife and I are spoiled with our gas cook top at home. Oooh. Aaah.
Electricity Situation
I am planning on the radiant heat to be all electric for the reasons stated above. This will be installed in/below poured 1" concrete (the heavy stuff), not quickcrete (the light stuff).The power lines are burried throught the community, and according to many long-time residents the power is *very* reliable. Also, since it's on the Eastside of the mountains, the power is also cheaper than on the Westside. Electricity just make sense. But that's where the choices/decisions start to become a little muddled.Radiant Heating Choices
Hydronic radiant heat
- Tried-and-tested, and many subs are accustomed to installing.😊
- Tubing is thick, adding to floor thickness. 😡
- Pumps wear out eventually. 😡
- Cost of installation can be expensive, and I'm not competent to DIY it. 😡
Electric radiant heat
I've found a number of manufacturers of radiant floor heating, which is the direction I'm most likely to go. The one I currently favor, Step Warm Floor (warmfloor.com) has a thin, flexible, low-voltage conductive, self-regulating polymer.The other vendors I'm still considering include Nuheat, Warmlyours, Floorheat, Warmup, Heatizon, Speedheat, Suntouch, Carbonicheat.
Here's my analysis of Step (so far).
- Low voltage, DC current 😊. This is fairly unique; most other vendors are 110V/220V.
- They claim they are more effecient than other electric solutions, but no one has done a true side-by-side scientific comparison. 😡
- Very thin & easy to install. 😊 Potentially DIY friendly.
- There are no moving parts to wear out (although eventually AC/DC trasnformers will wear out). 😊
- The warranties from any company don't exceed 5 or 10 years. What happens when it fails in 11 years?! I'll have to tear out all my concrete floors.😡 But, of course, the same could be true of hydronic as well, so I've decided not to worry about this too much, but instead make sure I choose a product from a reputable, well-established company.
Since we're located about 4,000 in the mountains, I've decided not to worry too much about air conditioning. I am making sure we have screens on the windows and can get a cross breeze. Plus, we'll be well insulated.
Also, because I expect the cabin to be pretty "tight" (well-insulated), I'm also planning to have fans in the bathrooms on each level that vent to the exterior so I can move the air. Don't want a sick house.
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